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named katie abram at a town hall meeting. she later pops up as a guest on hannity. >> this is why everybody in this room is so ticked off. i don't want this country turning into russia, turning into a socialized country. my question for you is -- what are you going to do to restore this country back to what our founders created according to the constitution? >> katie, were you happy with the answer you got from the senator today. >> my best friend karen called me and said, katie, you're on youtube? i'm like, what? that's odd. but, you know, honestly, after i asked the question, i was so just -- i don't know. i didn't hear half of what he said, to be honest with you. >> other people have shown up on these programs as well. is this a case where some conservative people are trying to turn these people into another "joe the plumber?" >> of course. things are much more understandable and this sort of the -- to talk about the concerns generally is not as powerful as seeing it expressed in the clearly very heart felt, very deep felt views of people. but there's a really interesting loop
% believe this, because every night sean hannity or others have been pushing this message, that in the language there is this potential. and when you say that, you're raising suspicions on the part of the public. >> is it that, or that more conservatives watch fox news and more conservatives are negative towards this plan or don't have any confidence in obama or in the mainstream media? >> a lot of political sciences indicated, especially over the past generation, there's been a tendency for people first to decide what they believe and then to decide what they want to watch. whereas, back in the 1970s, the best predictor about what you thought about the economy was how you were personally doing by the late 1990s, the best predictor about what you thought of the economy, whether you supported the party in power or not. the thing so wacky about this debate, is that it is already true that everybody or virtually everybody over 65 is enrolled in a public plan. the government could kill them all now if it wanted to. they have, theoretically, so what is going on different? that
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